Comments on Tory Bear - right-wing political gossip: Guest Post - Christian May

"LabourList came about as part of an attempt ...

2009-07-22T10:37:33.378+01:00

"LabourList came about as part of an attempt to counter the growing success and influence of ConservativeHome. However, whereas the latter hosts serious policy discussions and conducts interesting research"

Aha ha ha ha ha ha.

For all her undoubted craziness and rhetorical hyp...

2009-07-21T18:09:03.425+01:00

For all her undoubted craziness and rhetorical hyperbole, at least this young lady discussed the Every Family Matters report.

Perhaps some of you would care to do the same?

P.S. My blog also has a few things to say about it (shameless plug)

2009-07-17T22:04:50.547+01:00

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Ah, I remember Little Penny as a pleasantly incohe...

2009-07-17T15:55:11.298+01:00

Ah, I remember Little Penny as a pleasantly incoherent young upstart at Oxford a few years back, acting like it was still 1969. (More on this later, if your readers would like the details)

Nice girl, but incapable of any logical train of thought. And it shows in her 'arguments'/unsubstantiated assertions.

Laurie, my problem with your writing isn't that I disagree with your conclusions, it's the way that you reach your conclusions, as time and again, (as you did in the local Oxford rags) you seem incapable of substantiating your assertions, instead launching pre-packaged assumptions at the reader, without having ever really questioned those assumptions, or tried to pre-empt the most obvious points people may try to make against you.

Your writing also suffers from a certain instinctive "all left-wing/feminist=good, all right-wing=bad" tendency. I'm no Tory. But that doesn't make me think that all Tories are baby-eating devil incarnates. Engaging with (and criticisng) what the Tories actually are, instead of what you'd like them to be, will go a long way.

Finally, I can confirm that Penny is indeed both very crazy, and very young. I'd draw the line at 'irritating' (her logic certainly can be), since I don't find her personally objectionable, and she really is a rather sweet, well-meaning young thing. But she is barmy, and comes out with the loopiest negations of any kind of sequential thought.

She appears to have no understanding of the proper...

2009-07-17T10:22:23.657+01:00

She appears to have no understanding of the proper usage of the word "recalcitrant".

I bet she's a pretty little dear though. So lo...

2009-07-17T09:18:54.009+01:00

I bet she's a pretty little dear though. So long as she's kept in the kitchen or the bedroom she won't do much harm.

"There’s absolutely no depth or focus to her ...

2009-07-16T22:40:40.623+01:00

"There’s absolutely no depth or focus to her rant. It’s just a collection of student union style debating points."

So she won the 2010 Labour Manifesto contract then?

I did try to read this "Penny" post, got...

2009-07-16T19:46:55.566+01:00

I did try to read this "Penny" post, got lost on hetrophobic angle. She is everything I despise in my own sex. No use sending her to Cuba, they'd send her back. There's a few oceanic trenches we could bury her in though.

I'm happy for you guys to fund me to go on hol...

2009-07-16T18:38:56.159+01:00

I'm happy for you guys to fund me to go on holiday. But I'm quite confused by the accusations of craziness. What about my writing is crazy, other than the fact that you don't agree with me?

It seems you're also all teed off at me for having the temerity to be young. Good luck drawing the youth vote if you're going to automatically dismiss anything said by anyone under 27 as 'teenage' and 'student uniony'. What's wrong with being a young person with opinions?

Finally, I'm dreadfully amused that you're all accusing ME of resorting to ad hominem attacks when what you find to say about my writing is that I'm crazy, irritating and young. Well, I'm sorry for being crazy, irritating and young, but I've still got a decent argument: care to actually respond to it?

Careful, she may be a self harmer. It's the To...

2009-07-16T18:00:10.279+01:00

Careful, she may be a self harmer. It's the Tories wot made me do it, spewed over and over again on Womans Hour and all the other self indulgent wimmins stuff which poses as social commentary on Radio Four

I just perused her site.....she is clearly window-...

2009-07-16T17:19:02.704+01:00

I just perused her site.....she is clearly window-licking crazy.

By inference, baiting her will probably end up with her getting herself worked up into such a frenzy that she will argue herself around manically in ever decreasing circles, till, in all probability, she'll disappear up her own backside.

Can we hold a collection to send her to Cuba or so...

2009-07-16T16:56:49.801+01:00

Can we hold a collection to send her to Cuba or some Workers' Paradise then?

Perhaps she would do better if she came up with coherant arguments rather than a list of ad hominems and "facts" of dubious veracity.

Hardly an intelligent piece, having sadly wasted t...

2009-07-16T16:50:42.097+01:00

Hardly an intelligent piece, having sadly wasted time in reading it. Her style is more of a stroppy teenager with "problems" than a coherent analysis of the policy. How unexpected...