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The big problem with BevaniteEllie (who has exchan...

2009-11-19T20:01:40.542Z

The big problem with BevaniteEllie (who has exchanged a couple of hundred @mentions on Twitter with TB, so the first line in itself is utter bullcrap - ejusdem generis the rest) and a lot of her pals on the left is that she confuses actions with achievements.

It's not an achievement to set up the NHS. There, I said it. Setting it up took a regular Act of Parliament, like the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991, and shovelling money into it. Neither of these is particularly difficult when you're the party in government. Why? Because that's just a simple action.

What is, or rather would have been, a real achievement would have been to improve public health while not making the NHS a last line of defence against problems the social system has failed to guard from, riddled with procedural insanity and a bureaucracy to make nine out of ten medieval Chinese mandarins cry tears of true admiration, which costs way above what it delivers and which is rapidly losing the plot. This Labour has not managed. Action, tick. Achievement, hell no.

So Labour can come and list all their actions. All took virtually no effort at all. Are we supposed to applaud Labour for their good intentions simpliciter, without regard to what those have achieved (i.e. sweet Fanny Adams)? Certainly it's what Ms Gellard and her crowd would want us to.

Sadly, eight years of frantic (and expensive) action with virtually zero achievement is going to hurt Labour bad in the elections (well, sadly for them - good riddance, I say!).

Labour are totally committed to helping the least ...

2009-11-19T09:30:35.888Z

Labour are totally committed to helping the least well-off in society. Which is why a person working only 16 hours per week on minimum wage actually has to PAY income TAX !

Quite right too, says Labour - if you really are that feeble, we will punish you. You are not ever likely to donate much to Labour funds, are you ?

ALan Douglas

I saw it for the first time at Labour Party Con...

2009-11-19T08:44:31.810Z
I saw it for the first time at Labour Party Conference this year and it actually made me cry.

And? Watership Down tends to make one cry too, but it's still a work of fiction.

Labour's commitment to securing fairness can be best summed up in one sentence; the abolition of the 10p tax rate.

TB, I am curious. First you link to the pisspoor L...

2009-11-19T01:33:51.076Z
TB, I am curious. First you link to the pisspoor Labour campaign video, now you publish an email from some poor deluded soul who's clearly fishing for a response. Why give the oxygen of publicity to the enemy of all freedom-loving people in Britain?

People like "Bevanite" Ellie are the pri...

2009-11-19T00:32:19.423Z
People like "Bevanite" Ellie are the primary reason why Labour needs to be crushed, both electorally and physically.

They need to cram as much propaganda in as possibl...

2009-11-18T23:27:53.371Z
They need to cram as much propaganda in as possible to deal with the CRIMINAL charges being brought against this lot: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6601023/MPs-expenses-six-MPs-and-peers-face-fraud-charges.html

I have to say that poor Ellie really must be naive...

2009-11-18T22:46:14.846Z
I have to say that poor Ellie really must be naive to be taken in by such nonsense.

I can't imagine that anyone with a smattering of working brain cells would be more likely to vote Labour after watching that.

But then I would never be likely so perhaps I am not the best judge

Ellie is somewhat unusual amongst Labour women - i...

2009-11-18T18:38:38.243Z
Ellie is somewhat unusual amongst Labour women - in that she doesn't look like a bare knuckle boxer....yet.....

Maybe Labour ladies are like Italian women - sexy when young - who then upon marriage they go down hill very quickly, get fat, wear black and develop Mother Teresa faces and gnarled hands.....

......... however, it is amusing how the old men and battle axes of the Labour hierarchy happily pull the wool over Ellie's young (circa 1989) eyes. She actually believes Labour did everything in the video...

P.S. I think you should take up the offer with Emily No-Mates and take the video camera campaigning with Labour. I'd love to hear what people on the doorstep say to the Labour luvvies.....

Poor misguided love, what a waste of real compassi...

2009-11-18T17:54:51.960Z
Poor misguided love, what a waste of real compassion!

Lmao... campaign for Labour...

2009-11-18T17:42:09.962Z
Lmao... campaign for Labour...

Deluded rhetoric from a deluded demagogue. The vid...

2009-11-18T17:32:47.854Z
Deluded rhetoric from a deluded demagogue. The video is factually bunk and the "achievements" it outlines do not stand up to the gentlest examination.

The creation of the NHS was initiated in spite of protests from Doctors by bribery and coercion. It was Bevan had to "stuff their mouths with gold" for the medical profession to agree to its creation. And where are we now? Practically bottom of the European league tables despite one of the higher investments. The way Japan, the Netherlands and Singapore do health care make us look like a third world nation with filthy wards and nurses woefully underpaid.

The minimum wage is economically unsound. You can't fight poverty with bad economics. If it works so well why not raise it to £200 an hour? Many workers whose productivity is worth less than the minimum wage are simply no longer declared. If anything the m.w. has hidden exploitation enabling it to become more widespread rather than prevented it.

The notion that big government helps the poor and small government helps the rich is bogus. Big government suppresses everyone and all Labour has done is enlarge government and spread oppression.