tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post3018262876735869701..comments2008-12-13T02:30:17.672ZComments on Tory Bear - right-wing political gossip: Lily Kember should face the music.Harry Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05099597763862011749noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-47996371529143581762008-12-13T00:32:00.000Z2008-12-13T00:32:00.000ZExcellent piece here. The girl in question also, u...Excellent piece here. The girl in question also, unfortunately, attended my secondary school - and has shamed it with her actions. Oh well, at least the vast majority of us aren't like that. <BR/><BR/>Her and her group are an embarrassment to the country.Hannah Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-20175469919648070352008-12-09T21:27:00.000Z2008-12-09T21:27:00.000ZNVM- I agree that we are due a massive climate shi...NVM- I agree that we are due a massive climate shift sooner or later, but even though we have already committed ourselves to this due to the lag time of carbon emissions, we can still stave off climate emergency for a duration which is surely better than letting the earth go into meltdown?<BR/><BR/>Extreme direct action may unfortunately cause disruption to a few lives of civilians, but a crime like this is justified as it is to prevent a much bigger crime - that of governments and countries worldwide who are emitting gross amounts of pollutants every minute. Aviation is a major problem adding to this. <BR/><BR/>I recommend watching Leo Murray's video (of Plane Stupid)<BR/><BR/>https://wakeupfreakout.org/film/tipping.htmlBeckynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-67077009893110660042008-12-09T15:09:00.000Z2008-12-09T15:09:00.000ZBecky - "it has fallen to young people to take maj...Becky - "it has fallen to young people to take major action before we reach the tipping point, the point of no return after which runaway climate change is inevitable."<BR/><BR/>I'd like to point out that when you alter a system (like the environment), even slightly, it will have much larger consequences down the line. We've already altered the environments natural state, and while cutting emissions might stave off disaster for a small period, we've long since passed any so called "tipping" point.<BR/><BR/>Like it or not, sooner or later the planet is due a massive climate shift. We might as well prepare for it and stop pretending we can change the inevitable.<BR/><BR/>Btw, if you don't believe me, read up on "chaos theory".<BR/><BR/>p.s - We wouldn't stand for any of this extremist nonsense at Napier Uni...NVMhttps://www.wouldnthappenatabetteruniversity.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-74201824706762367232008-12-09T14:54:00.000Z2008-12-09T14:54:00.000Zas an ex-road protestor from the 90s, i know the v...as an ex-road protestor from the 90s, i know the value of direct action. our protests had a clear aim - to make road building prohibitively expensive - and were successful in achieving this. however, with hindsight, it is clear that this had no lasting impact on car use. it also came at a personal cost to many of those involved. <BR/><BR/>my message to plane stupid is that it is more useful to get involved in local politics than to make these type of gestures. unlike the road protests, where only private contractors experienced frustration and delay, this affected ordinary people going about their daily lives. yes, we need to stop airport expansion in the UK, but we need to take public opinion with us. lobbying for individual carbon permits would be more effective (albeit less dramatic) than this form of action.tafariuprisinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17201955285359534085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-72039935105756416792008-12-08T22:15:00.000Z2008-12-08T22:15:00.000ZAnonymous2: Of course everyone should be doing som...Anonymous2: Of course everyone should be doing something, but it has fallen to young people to take major action before we reach the tipping point, the point of no return after which runaway climate change is inevitable.<BR/><BR/>Seeing as everyone ISN'T doing their bit, it has to come to direct action to make this vital cause known and for people to start acting instead of talking. If we don't do something now then it will be too late.Beckynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-28709646282986236372008-12-08T19:07:00.000Z2008-12-08T19:07:00.000Zwho's 'we'? you mean 'you' in power and public sch...who's 'we'? you mean 'you' in power and public school hippies? you mean climate change protesters and everyone else?<BR/><BR/>I'd just like to point out that this group of people don't represent every climate change protester: some people do do things lawfully.<BR/><BR/>I'd also like to respond to Mika: yeah, students have a responsibility, but so does everyone else. I don't see why people are always saying "the younger generation" should be doing something. If anyone should, everyone should - it's affecting everyone. <BR/>If that was the case, maybe action wouldn't be done in such an extreme way as to disrupt others' lives, it would happen with the approval of everyone, lawfully and carefully.Anonymous2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-50992740948430626862008-12-08T18:22:00.000Z2008-12-08T18:22:00.000Zno you fucking idiot, the people who were fighting...no you fucking idiot, the people who were fighting apartheid had a genuine cause and actually made a difference. A load of public school hippies pretending to save the planet are the ones that should be shot.<BR/><BR/>RESPECT PROPERTY AND RESPECT THE LAW AND THEN WE CAN TALK.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-43753500397005146442008-12-08T18:10:00.000Z2008-12-08T18:10:00.000ZTB is the one with no sense of personal responsibi...TB is the one with no sense of personal responsibility - the type who'd thinks it's fine to build new airports, even if that means Bangladesh is flooded and Sudan dries up.<BR/>As privileged students, you have a massive responsibility - not just for your own emissions, but to change the direction the country is heading in. <BR/>And re: the people saying Lily should be shot - do you think anti-apartheid protestors should have been shot when they blocked roads?Mikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-62316663981503187382008-12-08T17:28:00.001Z2008-12-08T17:28:00.001Zairport protestors should be rounded up, attached ...airport protestors should be rounded up, attached to the outside of planes on take-off and dropped at altitude. fucking loons.stoonhttps://www.noiseporn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-10699526406033029032008-12-08T17:28:00.000Z2008-12-08T17:28:00.000ZAnonymous, you are entirely correct. If everyone r...Anonymous, you are entirely correct. If everyone remains in their blind state of ignorance towards the impending doom of runaway climate change, we, along with our children and their children, will have to pay for the devastating amount of CO2 being chucked into the atmosphere. <BR/><BR/>The aviation industry is already accounting for 13% of our climate budget, and if we intend to cut our emissions by 80% by 2050, we really can't have airport expansion at the same time.<BR/><BR/>These protesters did a fantastic job of highlighting the enormous threat of climate change; we need to act now - if we turn a blind eye to climate change, everything else in our lives will become meaningless as we face a terrifying future.Beckynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-67343007435298229642008-12-08T17:17:00.000Z2008-12-08T17:17:00.000ZIt would be good if people could engage with this ...It would be good if people could engage with this in a way which wasn't completely stupid. <BR/><BR/>Consider the following: airport expansion in the UK threatens to push the UK beyond it's required emissions reductions and push the world closer to catastrophic climate change. <BR/><BR/>Through a consistent campaigns of direct action, Plane Stupid have brought the third runway into question and have made it's expansion less likely. If they win, this will be a good thing. <BR/><BR/>Do you disagree with either of these? If not, then you need to see the bigger picture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-53654928955297632892008-12-08T17:12:00.000Z2008-12-08T17:12:00.000Zapparently a daughter missed her fathers funeral d...apparently a daughter missed her fathers funeral due to the disruption....she should have a personal apology from these idiots!Emmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-14377443263441810002008-12-08T15:06:00.000Z2008-12-08T15:06:00.000Zshould have shot hershould have shot herNiccolo Machiavellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09387648864595329094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-17005263605868105802008-12-08T15:02:00.000Z2008-12-08T15:02:00.000ZTB or Lily? ; )TB or Lily? ; )Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05099597763862011749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-69931840139020899722008-12-08T15:01:00.000Z2008-12-08T15:01:00.000ZWhy is this student not in lectures?Why is this student not in lectures?Donal Blaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239819808783416904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-26426942977768244132008-12-08T14:58:00.000Z2008-12-08T14:58:00.000ZGood call. Actions have consequences.Good call. Actions have consequences.Praguetoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16520923731691837948noreply@blogger.com