tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post8615624289688158731..comments2009-01-17T18:26:38.169ZComments on Tory Bear - right-wing political gossip: The last word...Harry Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05099597763862011749noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-31063968069977337322009-01-17T08:50:00.000Z2009-01-17T08:50:00.000ZPoor Matt...<br>silly sod. TB; your an arse.Poor Matt...<BR/>silly sod. TB; your an arse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-6471057753552360242009-01-12T21:34:00.000Z2009-01-12T21:34:00.000ZSo many anonymous comments……<br><br>I personally t...So many anonymous comments……<BR/><BR/>I personally think this whole matter should have been dealt with discreetly and internally. I fail to see what has been accomplished by plastering this all over your blog TB. All that has happened is that bigger news outlets have run the story, causing grave embarrassment to the party and no doubt considerable and unnecessary suffering to the family of Maddie. None of this would have happened if this facebook exchange was sent to the Conservative Party for them to take what they deemed to be the appropriate course of action. <BR/><BR/>By dragging this out into the public domain, we are now giving journalists and political opponents a charter to trawl through the private life of every single CF activist. I can assure you that is a position I would not be content with having studied you guys for 4 years! It will only take 1 or 2 plants at certain CF branch functions for another story to break…<BR/><BR/>If opponents of the Conservative Party have any sense and start trawling, planting or listening carefully to some of the discussion between some CF members after 4 beers have been downed, then this could be the thin end of the wedge.John Moorcrafthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08371423149892555902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-13293675240846417402009-01-11T16:30:00.000Z2009-01-11T16:30:00.000ZWere you the kind of child who sneaked on your fri...Were you the kind of child who sneaked on your friends when they had a ciggy behind the bike sheds?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-54532054667526466482009-01-11T10:23:00.000Z2009-01-11T10:23:00.000ZTory Bear in trouble - who is that riding to the r...Tory Bear in trouble - who is that riding to the rescue over the hills on his white charger ? <BR/><BR/>Why, Three Cheers for Prince Harry saving England and the Bear again ! <BR/><BR/>Hurrah ! Hurrah ! Hurrah !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-42715175103262827722009-01-11T00:08:00.000Z2009-01-11T00:08:00.000ZSINCE WHEN DOES BEING A MEMBER MAKE YOU A REPRESEN...SINCE WHEN DOES BEING A MEMBER MAKE YOU A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PARTY 24/7?THINKING OUT LOUDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-53425285602008546582009-01-11T00:02:00.000Z2009-01-11T00:02:00.000Zgood i hope they think twice. cf members represent...good i hope they think twice. cf members represent this party and should bloody well think twice you tit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-30228983092508639392009-01-10T23:57:00.000Z2009-01-10T23:57:00.000ZTHE SAD THING IS THAT TB HAS DONE SO MUCH DAMAGE T...THE SAD THING IS THAT TB HAS DONE SO MUCH DAMAGE THAT ANY STUDENT THINKING OF JOINING THE PARTY WILL NOW THINK TWICE IF EVERY ONE OF THIER ACTIONS COULD LAND THEM ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE SUN THANKS TO TB.THINKING OUT LOUDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-87499273257833981032009-01-10T23:21:00.000Z2009-01-10T23:21:00.000ZFoolish, but highly doubtful it was malicious, jus...Foolish, but highly doubtful it was malicious, just high-jinks gone tits-up. Most of the outraged voices have done far worse; his major crime was being caught out publicly.<BR/><BR/>Fair play to Lewis, whether you support him or not, he has gone quietly and not made a fuss. That seems to have been caused by others who probably don't even know anyone involved posting on blogs such as this.<BR/><BR/>My one criticism of TB is that, as Miss Swann pointed out, the NYE party was not a Tory event, nor has Lewis held a position within the party since Boxing Day; some time before now despite what the Daily Mail says! The damaging link to the Tory party has in my view been caused entirely by Tory Bear.an old boy's viewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-1672071625057115622009-01-10T22:13:00.000Z2009-01-10T22:13:00.000ZAnd to those that say that now laughing at any bad...And to those that say that now laughing at any bad taste joke would be hypocritical, may i make this point. Their is the public and the private. What goes on in private does not matter an iota. But when you are in public or writing on a public forum, it is an entirely different kettle of fish.nimblehipponoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-53124073868577729832009-01-10T22:08:00.000Z2009-01-10T22:08:00.000ZBravo Tory Bear - nice to see some of the Conserva...Bravo Tory Bear - nice to see some of the Conservative Pary youth have a sense of decency and the balls to make difficult decisions. By "ratting" on our own we showed the public that we will not tolerate this sort of sick behaviour, rather than having it waved in front of our face by our rivals. As a friend of someone who lost a party job due to facebook activity, I sympathise, but surely they should realise that anyone who is in a position of authority within the pary must be whiter than white, and that any cock ups tar the party with the same brush, even when it has nothing to do with politics. This also doesn't help the image of young conservatives activists who are generaly viewed as being childish, narcistic power hugry suck ups, trying to brown nose their way to the top, and damages the work that a lot of brilliant committed guys do at a grass roots level. The saying is, With great power comes great responsability - and though their power may not have been anywhere near great, any position within the party is sufficiently serious that they should know better, and that their actions reflect on the party as a wholenimblehipponoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-42853690437586578302009-01-10T21:20:00.000Z2009-01-10T21:20:00.000ZIf these guys can be expelled from the party for b...If these guys can be expelled from the party for being dickheads, why doesn't the same work for John Redwood?Neglected Tory Activistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-2420628094125217542009-01-10T19:52:00.000Z2009-01-10T19:52:00.000ZI think a private email to CCO might have been eno...I think a private email to CCO might have been enough rather than making it very public and opening up all the negative publicity. I fear that people in CF will give you a very wide berth in future TB.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-47578969310143425842009-01-10T18:01:00.000Z2009-01-10T18:01:00.000ZTruly astonishing behavior TB. We don't do this to...Truly astonishing behavior TB. We don't do this to our own side.<BR/><BR/>2 things:<BR/><BR/>1. Everyone knows exactly who you are anyway, regardless of your silly 'Tory Bear' pseudonym.<BR/><BR/>2. What goes around comes around, and you've pissed off A LOT of people with this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-37317600291177482242009-01-10T17:58:00.000Z2009-01-10T17:58:00.000ZI'd also like to point out that this is not the fi...I'd also like to point out that this is not the first time Flick Cox has joked about child abuse. <BR/>Funny how these things are forgotten.Alexandranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-40324148943779263612009-01-10T17:56:00.000Z2009-01-10T17:56:00.000ZI think this has gone just a little bit too far.<b...I think this has gone just a little bit too far.<BR/><BR/>Abusive comments left under "anonymous", no doubt by friends of those involved, are as childish and ridiculous as the claims you are making against TB.<BR/><BR/>Whilst the broadcasting of these conversations perhaps wasn't the wisest move it does not in any way deserve the bloody awful comments some of you seem intent on sending this way.<BR/><BR/>For a start, as Adele has said, the campaigning in the North has gone ahead as planned. There is no great collapse because Richard Lowe was caught out doing something when he should have known better. <BR/>Furthermore, yes many people go to bad taste parties but at the same time they are not in positions of responsibility representing the party - a party that has spent the last few years trying to build up its image and doesn't need bringing down by utter stupidity as it prepares to take over government. <BR/>The "joke" in itself was sick and wrong but the other massive error here was not having the common sense to leave it off the internet.<BR/><BR/>Matt Lewis is a lovely person and I really do feel awful for him as this has not only seen him removed from the party but it will probably damage his future career prospects. Memories fade but the internet remains. However, he should have known better and only has himself to blame. Not TB.<BR/><BR/>Finally, this has not painted the Conservatives in a bad light. It was not a CF event and swift action was taken in expelling all involved. Perhaps it could even be said that this bloody awful incident has shown the willingness of the party to take decisive action against something it considers unacceptable.<BR/><BR/>So please, stop attacking TB. If it were a Labour candidate or activist you would all be as sanctimonious. Just imagine if it was a Lib Dem!?!<BR/><BR/>Whilst he may have brought it to light he was not the one dressing up, he was not the one making sick jokes and he certainly was not the one laughing about it on a facebook profile. His "sanctimonious" attitude is exactly what was required in the circumstance. What the hell would you all have said if he made light of it and the story read "Tory boy and subsequent Tory blogs make sick joke..." etc etc.<BR/><BR/>Don't shoot the messenger. Shoot the utter stupidity of those involved.<BR/>Better still, let's put all this to rest and learn from it.Alexandra Swannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-3180504475049307512009-01-10T17:50:00.000Z2009-01-10T17:50:00.000ZThe thing that surprises me is the alacrity that t...The thing that surprises me is the alacrity that the CF High Command seems to have thrown these three to the wolves. Of previous chairmen, certainly Clarke and Bristow have gone into bat on behalf of members who have done far worse.<BR/><BR/>Lewis is/was a wanker, but must be feeling fairly agrieved that a Chairman who he fairly publicly supported, and for whom he delivered a lot at the last election, has cut him loose in such a public way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-33232159053014286492009-01-10T15:13:00.000Z2009-01-10T15:13:00.000Zps boasting about being a sick fuck and dressing u...ps boasting about being a sick fuck and dressing up as maddy is not "perfectly innocent but easily spinnable".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-85353933900157561212009-01-10T15:12:00.000Z2009-01-10T15:12:00.000Zyou people are fucking retarded how long before a ...you people are fucking retarded how long before a piece appears about how it seems young tories support what lewis did and are more willing to slag off the decent person who bought such dreadful form to light?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-44261845484750344492009-01-10T15:07:00.000Z2009-01-10T15:07:00.000ZI'm frequently astonished by hubris, but you've re...I'm frequently astonished by hubris, but you've reached new heights Tory Bear.<BR/><BR/>I never made friends with you on facebook - and i'm glad i never did. I wouldn't be surprised if you've trawled through the profiles of huge numbers of CF members, saving screencaps of conversations, comments, and of course pictures, all of perfectly innocent, yet spinnable conversations which you'll bring out when you fancy bringing someone down.<BR/><BR/>You can never be trusted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-54605857737278376152009-01-10T13:45:00.000Z2009-01-10T13:45:00.000ZThis has not hurt the party it said that we will c...This has not hurt the party it said that we will come down on any one who duse not show conservative values and dressing up as a little girl who gone missing and believed dead is not conservative values and if you dress up or even make a joke about your not welcome.<BR/><BR/>The 3 where not just activists but leading young members and should be getting a example. TB should not think twice about braken news about torys as he is one if anything he should be keeping leading members in check if they dont show conservative values.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-52395027271233974442009-01-10T13:36:00.000Z2009-01-10T13:36:00.000Zseriously guys, <br>i'd love to be a tory. but you...seriously guys, <BR/>i'd love to be a tory. but you people aren't normal. there are more immediate issues for you to worry about (most of you; personal hygine), rather than just burning the witch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-16128692920411174142009-01-10T13:31:00.000Z2009-01-10T13:31:00.000ZCompared to some of the things that have been left...Compared to some of the things that have been left on this blog in the last 24 hours, anon at 13.15 is pretty tame.<BR/><BR/>TBEditorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05099597763862011749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-59190633487793390092009-01-10T13:29:00.000Z2009-01-10T13:29:00.000ZWhat is everyone getting so upset about? this hasn...What is everyone getting so upset about? this hasnt damaged the party it has shown it in a very good light. people who are evil are not permitted in our ranks. it has shown the nation that we have changed and will not put up with this shit anymore and that can only be a good thing in the eyes of the voters. if they had suspended and or investigated this lot or just given them a slap on the wrist the same old accusations of the do nothing nasty party would be back.<BR/><BR/>it was right out out lewis becuase any reasonable person would be sickened by his actions. what is wrong with you people?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-90102947087587805752009-01-10T13:28:00.000Z2009-01-10T13:28:00.000Zwell done TB. <br><br>You've damaged the tories<br...well done TB. <BR/><BR/>You've damaged the tories<BR/><BR/>You've destroyed a promising career<BR/><BR/>You've made yourself untrusted<BR/><BR/>You've hurt the McCanns.<BR/><BR/>There goes the credibility of your blog. <BR/><BR/>Refering to your moderation policy "Racist, homophobic or any other form of generally abusive comment will be deleted instantly". Generally abusive, say , like calling "the guy a cunt"- anon 13:15. But that's OK? Tell us your princess di jokes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-8586869352795583922009-01-10T13:25:00.000Z2009-01-10T13:25:00.000Zit is nothing to do with the conservative party! p...it is nothing to do with the conservative party! people are allowed a private life!<BR/><BR/><BR/>If this damages the party it is the bear's fault, not Mr Lewis's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com